NO Images?

I've noticed a lot of stamps listed on this site without images. am i missing something here? it would not be the fist time i did :-)

seems things would sell better with images and make the site a more pleasant place to visit but i am often wrong on these things? Does this happen on purpose - or is it a transfer of files problem? I can remember having issues uploading csv? files in the old days and a lot of times the pictures would not load. a real pain in... :-)

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  • Hey Jerry, it's been working fine for me. Here's a few examples of my latest photo posts ....
  • I've wondered about that myself, but seeing how most of these sellers have high feedback numbers, they must have a steady customer base who trust their descriptions. Those sellers, I guess, can't be bothered to spend the time scanning (which admittedly is quite time-consuming), especially on lower value items. Meanwhile, I scan damn near everything, even nickel stamps, and yet sales are sparse except for the occasional uptick. Then again, I'm also guessing my store doesn't have anywhere near the listings that those folks have.

    PS Odd that the post above mine has no text or mention of the author... ;)
  • No its not done on purpose! I list a lot, and sometimes for a unknown reason the scan does not load up. I usually find out soon enough when I go on my "opening page" but since Hipstamp puts higher value stamps (over $1) up front the lesser value stamps which are very numerous get pushed back and are not readily visible unless I happen to stumble upon it or if a customer mentions it. I sometimes find out when I want to make a correction and happen to fall on it. It would be nice if instead of constantly having that blue ball popping up all the time, we would get a warning that the listing is not complete. Same thing for a message from a customer. I recently was filling a rather large order and I was unaware that my customer was trying to reach me about this particular order...
  • LOL Ron. :-) It seems to me that duplicate listings over 3-5 and no photo listings should be put in a special seller's folder and removed from search. until fixed (photos) (duplicates- only allow 3-5 max) this clutter is ruining the site. obviously. it could be a very real reason traffic and sales are a bit slow here. Just a thought. :-) I understand that issues exist beyond the site's control can cause no photos. csv files are very touchy things. saying that it makes the site look unprofessional.
  • eBay's system won't allow a listing to be put up unless there is at least one image included in that listing. Perhaps a similar automatic restriction could be put in place here.
    Liberty Stamp Shop, obviously a very successful seller here with over 119K listings and a feedback of almost 104K, has lots of listings sans images. For just one example, look at their 4 pages of Malawi starting here: https://www.hipstamp.com/store/liberty-stamp-shop-inc/?keywords=malawi&page=1
    The first page starts off pretty good, but once you scroll towards the bottom, more and more listings have no image. The next three pages have even less. Is this on purpose or not? It seems that's an awful lot of listings to have their images squelched by using csv files, but if that's the cause, I'm glad I don't use them.
  • If you look at the Malawi listings that Liberty Stamp shop,recently listed first.you would notice that ALL of the listings that are missing pictures are items that were transferred off of Bidstart. (The Hipstamp ID gives it away as they are only in the 7 digit range. Recently listed items are now in the 30,000,000 range and those listings are all in the 4,000,000 range) I do know for a fact that there was a problem when they moved the listings from Bidstart to Hipstamp and Hippostcard that a number of the pictures did go missing. (The postcard sellers were aware of this first as any of the sellers that had back scans lost them in the transfer.)

    I use csv files all the time with the bulk lister and unless there is a problem between the picture ID and private ID number or making sure the pictures themselves are uploaded I have never had a problem with the pictures being uploaded to the listing.

  • I'm doing this by memory and its not what it used to be, but back in the Stampwants days A suburban detroit dealer had many many listings with no pictures, mainly lower priced items, but they stated somewhere that they would scan anything that potential buyers wanted scanned.
    Scanning is my personal "choke point" and until i can find someone willing to work for a buck an hour it will stay that way.
  • edited December 2019 0 LikesVote Down
    Using Bulk Lister (.csv files) the system will not list items with an image URL listed but incorrect. It WILL list items that have no image URL in that field (blank). I have tested this out. So you can decide whether you want an image, not the process itself. Of course mistakes happen. I guess I am affirming Michael Duehr's response at the end.
  • Re eBay.....
    Note the ton of sellers that have a standard: "pic coming soon" pic on their listings, just to comply with the pic requirements, but never add one.
  • edited January 2020 1 LikesVote Down
    well if the management here does not care about pictures or the duplication or improving the site.. that is the way things will stay. sellers like myself note this and some will leave :-) no big deal- not trying to upset the apple cart but if things are not ever going to change here.. then obviously it will stay the same. if the same is ok with some- they will stay.. some will leave. I doubt anything will get better here, to be honest. Personally i think its very unprofessional but I do realize that is my opinion and my opinion matters zero. :-)
  • I just never buy a stamp without an image. Not ever.
  • Same here. No picture, no purchase. You show no image means you are not interested in my business.

    https://www.hipstamp.com/store/stampboutique
  • I prefer images, but have bought stamps without from certain sellers based upon their representations of other stamps where they have provided images. I have not been disappointed. On the other hand, I have not brought from a seller who lists the same image for various listings. I contacted this seller and was informed he posted an image of his "best" stamp when he had multiple copies and if I didn't like the one he sent, I could always return it for full refund. I informed him, that I would not be doing "any" business with him because if I see an image, I expect that stamp, not a substitute of inferior quality.

    Personally, I never list any stamps without images, even the many 10 cent stamps I offer. I believe this is appreciated by most buyers and results in more sales.
  • I used stock photos on common stuff, but that still takes a lot of time.
    I am still fairly new to the stamp and postcard business, though been an online seller since 1998.
    I considered listing common stamps without pics/scans, but realized it's a waste of my scarce time to even list that crap altogether.
    My minimum now is $5 and up and I will take scans of actual items for those.
    Anyone selling 5 and 10 cent stamps is a hobbyist. If you don't make at least $10 an hour doing this, you are not running this as a business.
  • My wife and I joke that we make 5 cents an hour. But we are both retired and still having fun. I don't really NEED a business to run. Social Security gives us so much, sarc off.
  • edited January 2020 6 LikesVote Down
    That's right. This is a hobby first. And hobbyists need a place to find other hobbyists to fill their needs, which the "professionals" can't bother with. No need to get all high and mighty, Martin, with your obvious disdain for hobbyists. This isn't a zero-sum game, where each additional hobbyist-dealer's business means that much less for a "professional." There's room for everybody, and, frankly, you should be glad the little guys are here. Today's 5c stamp " collector" is tomorrow's $5 "philatelist."
  • Martin I'm puzzled by your comments that anyone selling 10 cent stamps is a hobbyist and if your not making at least $10 per hour your not running a business. I do both, so what does that make me? I know your new, but based upon your sales as represented by your feedback, you have made far less than $10 per hour. Probably closer to Wayne's 5 cents per hour.

    Of course you may have sold more than the $15 listed in your feedback. I only receive feedback on 65% of my sales. Our definitions of what a 10 cent stamp is varies dramatically. Many of yours listed at 48 cents, which exceeds Scott value, I would list at 10 cents. I hope to sell more by offering a reasonable price. Granted, I can't make $10 per hour listing 10 cent stamps with images, but I also list stamps for more than $100 each which generate considerably more than $10 per hour. It's the average that's important to me. This allows me to remain a hobbyist and have fun while doubling my Social Security income. Perhaps you can too, if you stay at it.
  • According to the state of Wisconsin and the US government,they claim I am a business and must pay income and FICA taxes. I would greatly appreciate it if you would contact the governments to see about changing the tax code as you are not in agreement on what is a business. If they were to see eye yo eye with you that may just reduce my tax liability. Thanks.

    (I do sell some stamps at .11 cents each when they are on sale so...) I have been doing this full time for the last 15 years
    with out being on social security. (I won't be on social security for at least another 6 years or so.) It all depends on what your mix is. If your mix of items is at 90-95% of your items are under 50 cents each,you are going to have a very hard time trying to make it full time. I do not put the lower value items up as the main items that I am trying to make it on,but they can be a nice add on and it's good for customer service as you do have people that are missing some of those lower value items.

    What I have found over the years is that most of your buyers don't just buy 10 cent stamps. (Once in a while you will get an order or 2 that the buyer will only buy the lower value items. Most of the buyers will have a range of items that range in price from the lowest value items on up. And the buyers do appreciate being able to get some of those lower value items as some of them are actually more difficult to locate then some of the higher priced items.)
  • I have no disdain to hobbyists and apologize if it came across like that.
    I gave up worrying about that way back when I was a mega bookseller and the penny seller phenomenon first appeared.
    To each their own, I just don't compete with those sellers.
    And yes,I made little so far on here. But I also list the same stuff simultaneously on eBay and sold quite a lot more there. I also am not currently pushing sales with sales etc. Building an inventory first. I have a 5 year plan to make a living of my paper biz.
    And I actually made a LOT more than $10 an hour on my measly 2000+ listings on hippostcard and hipstamps. It's called investing into an inventory. My current main business is also online sales. And I make good money on stuff that I listed years ago.
    Just as I will make lots of money once and when the stamps and postcards eventually sell.
    Sure at the end of this month I made no money. Considering fees and buying more raw inventory put me likely in the red. But when I get that $100 sale sometime down the road and it will take me minutes to fill I made a lot more than $10 that hour.
    And I disagree with making more than $10 an hour selling 10 cent stamps.
    I am sure you make more than $10 overall throughout the month, But you made next to nothing on the 10 cent stamps.
    I played with hip when I started just a few months ago, that's where the 48 cent stamps come in.
    I gave up on those. Just letting them sit as they don't cost me any extra fees for now.


  • And Michael
    I completely see how the low end stamps also attract buyers to your inventory.
    Def. works as part of the mix. Just not something I feel I want to do.
    I am 50 years old and working my ass to death in my day biz. Moving 100s of lbs of stuff at a time all the time. Can;t find many acceptable employees, so a lot I do myself.
    The paper biz is my exit strategy.
    I am extremely analytical and have spent the last 3-4 months looking into stamps, postcards etc.
    Still fine tuning stuff.
    All is good and apologies again to whom I may have offended.
  • I agree totally with the no image situation,though I rarely sell anything under $5.A decent scan & a fair price (25% of cv is usually my highest) is my policy but I am not a dealer.I recently deleted everything in my store (only 200+ items) & now sell through auction or buy now as my sales are mainly Auction & recently buy now. (90%+ sales compared with store)
  • edited January 2020 1 LikesVote Down
    perhaps a simple solution would be a very obvious button to delete in search all listings without images. this should be fairly easy to do especially since other search options are there for similar undesirable things like duplicates.. code wise should take almost zero time to install. Or even better yet.. a button to include items without images.. the default would be not to show these items unless clicked.

    like i said it is the - unprofessional look - that new buyers especially get of the site when they see no pictures. not that even 1% of the buyers here would ever buy a stamp with no pictures.
  • While that may be correct with younger buyers about the pictures,one forgets that many of our buyers are older buyers that did mail order. Those buyers use to use to buy through Linn's and off of price lists which didn't have pictures at all or very,very few. How do you think many of those sellers kept selling without pictures? How do you think Linn's was able to sell all that ad space without pictures?

    Now I do agree that with this being on the net that pictures should be added as it does look better and for a longer term outlook as the older buyers who were used to buy off of price lists without pictures stop buying,those who have gotten used to having pictures won't buy as much from those sellers.





  • Speaking as a buyer, I am a lot less bothered by absentee pictures on inexpensive items than I am by the flagrant abuse of the listing rules. Every time I sort a listing by country/catalog #, I get dozens of pages of listings that are randomly sorted by the dealer's box or location code, which is both useless to me and a big time waster. Not to mention all the listings that are in the wrong country (Dominica/Dominican Republic; early Russia filed under Finland, wrong catalog #, etc.).
  • edited January 2020 0 LikesVote Down
    ^This.
    Lack of a picture is, literally, the least of my worries.
  • edited January 2020 2 LikesVote Down
    not so much a worry as it is one of the reasons this site is not a good center for stamp traffic. there are a few others. really not worth disusing as management here does not seem to be concerned on issues like this. no big deal. I removed my domain redirect from this site to elsewhere so the traffic i am sending will not be coming here now. That also is obviously no big deal. :-) In my opinion there are a few shops doing well here and the management has every intention of keeping that in place. the rest are nothing but window dressing to support these few shops. They do need the support though :-) even if it results in very few sales for the rest of the shops but the feeling i get is there is very little concern for the remaining 95% of the shops and buyers as long as the buyers are mainly purchasing from the top few shops. this could be supported through search coding also (i strongly suspect this). Would love to see the stats on sales from this site.. i'm betting 95 % sales go to 5% shops. as Shakespeare said "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" lol
  • Surprised to hear so much negativity in a few of the comments being posted. Certain recent comments are totally unfounded. Sorting generally provides what your looking for. You don't receive "dozens" of pages of unrelated material. Sure a few stamps may be out of place, but considering the number of listings, most are correctly identified.

    I have found that management addresses most reasonable concerns. To claim that management is only interested in 5% of the shops and that 95% of the sales go to those shops tells me you are frustrated because your sales have not been going well (which I verified).

    Perhaps the problem is not with the site, but with the material and method of listing. In my opinion, the key to selling is to list material people want and make it easy for them to find it. Listing catalog numbers is just as important as showing images. How else do you expect people to find them? Anyone listing stamps without cat numbers, shouldn't complain their stamps aren't selling. Listing stamps at the right price is also important. Many sellers don't list at a realistic price. Although this doesn't bother me, as it makes my prices look that much better.

    In my opinion, the beauty of this site is that management doesn't dictate what you sell or what price you set on it. The end result is that some sellers will succeed and some won't. The choice is up to each.
  • "Perhaps the problem is not with the site, but with the material and method of listing. In my opinion, the key to selling is to list material people want and make it easy for them to find it."

    "Making it easy for them to find it". Visibility is the key to success and without drawing any conclusions as to the "visibility" issue we all know about on Ebay here is my experience.

    I took the month of December off from listing on Hipstamp in order to concentrate on auctioning higher dollar stuff off on another site. Sell through rate was 33% with a couple of surprise 3 figure bids. Without listing on Hipstamp total sales for the month of December were 23 stamps, mostly sold 1 to 3 per order. A couple of days ago I listed 5 covers here and within 24 hours had 3 orders totaling 65 stamps. Could be a coincidence - right.

    Just the facts.

  • Gentlemen: as a buyer for the last 6 months, it is the feeling that most people, hobbists if you like are smart enough to know a "Good price" from a "HIGH price"! Most of us "hobbists" look at the various catalogs and sites, researching a GOOD BUY!!!! If there is no scan I won't even consider the item. Collecting has changed, and the swindling seller won't get much business!! And if you think people will just buy High dollar stamps Think Again. I work as hard if not harder for the money to spend on my "Hobby" than you do in your Business!! People have more choices and they DEMAND A good value. To thine own self be true.
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